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  Travel By Karul October 15, 2010 at 4:37am

  Hi, just joined the group. What an interesting concept. I've never heard of travel astrology but it makes sense. I felt strangely at home the first time I visited Egypt and have been back many times since then. Wonder what that's about. Maybe I'll have to investigate!
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  Kat Morgenstern October 14, 2010 at 2:01am

  oh dear, that sounds pretty horrendous. But hey, I suppose no matter what you would have gotten involved with would have been, um, challenging. At least this wasn't your marriage or anything like that. But yes, agreed, off topic.
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  Jordan Simon October 14, 2010 at 1:57am

  Ha! Funny you should mention transits. I did of course look at them, as well as progressions. Transiting Pluto (in 5th) had squared Venus (in 2nd) when we agreed on the partnerships. A few months later, after we'd gotten the book contract from Avon, Neptune hit my descendant (willing self-deception about a partnership, LOL) while Saturn transiting my 9th house (publishing among other things) squared my natal Saturn in 6th (and yes, the project made my daily life hell). So not like I didn't foresee some difficulties, but hey, I had other crap going on, LOL.... Anyway, this is getting off group topic, but fun to revisit several years later! I did learn some things about myself (admittedly haven't implemented all those lessons!), about my collaborator, about astrology....
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  Kat Morgenstern October 14, 2010 at 1:47am

  yes...funny how the mind finds ways to shut off reason when blinded by love or the promise of opportunity. But the important thing is you probably learnt a lot on many different levels, even though it hurt. Somehow the most important lessons usually do. Would be interesting to examine your own chart in terms of transits that were going on at the time.
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  Jordan Simon October 14, 2010 at 1:43am

  Amen, Kat. Unfortunately most people don't even examine composite/synastry when considering life partners! I learned my lesson, just for business in that case. Though obviously sometimes we have to soldier on, and that was a great professional opportunity. Honestly, not sure I could have avoided problems even had I known the composite was almost comically disastrous, LOL (hey, maybe I intuited the chart would be tense, and put my blinders on)....
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  Kat Morgenstern October 14, 2010 at 1:37am

  Can't stress enough the importance of composit /synastry charts when considering a trip partner!!!
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  Kat Morgenstern October 14, 2010 at 1:37am

  Jordan - indeed, synastry/composit charts are so important when considering a partnership. Sometimes one does not have that info available and has to go with instinct, but, well, time will reveal...
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  Jordan Simon October 14, 2010 at 1:16am

  Kat's right. It's almost impossible to generate accurate birthdates for ethnic groups. Political independence is as good as defining point as any. Patriotism doesn't supersede clanship/ethnicity, but it does encompass them. If a specific group has had a huge influence on a destination, I can almost guarantee that will somehow somewhere show up in a well-drawn destination chart.
  
  So back to your question. I'd do Arizona, New Mexico, California, etc based on their official statehood... And the history and mosaic of cultures will be reflected in that chart.

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  Jordan Simon October 14, 2010 at 1:10am

  David, I think the more specificity the better when you're discussing astrology as it applies to trips. And there, really, for basic monthly or weekly horoscopes you're casting a chart based perhaps a bit more on the traveler than the destination. Doing personal charts, which is hours of work, does attempt to combine the two.
  
  Catalonia is a great example (or for that matter almost any Spanish province that had an independent history, such as the Pais Vasco or Navarra). I would probably try to find a city charter for Barcelona, and work with that, as well as Spain because despite the separate language, culture, customs it IS still intertwined with Spain.
  
  You could, for argument's sake, take the formation of a political separatist party, even an, ahem, questionable entity like the ETA for the Basque Country. If you believe that most people would prefer to form their own country, or attain greater autonomy, then that could well be a valid point of origin or birthdate.
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  Kat Morgenstern October 14, 2010 at 1:10am

  Interesting question David Paul. Personally, for casting horoscopes I would only use charts that are relevant at the state level and look for the different ethnic groups within that. The state is an entity made up of different ethnicities and groupings and I feel that these can be reflected by one or the other planet and their placement within the nations chart. Political independence = selfhood/identity.